Response to: Greg Wyshynski's ESPN Article "Was Martin Brodeur Overrated?"
On November 9, 2018 sportswriter for ESPN, Greg Wyshynski, wrote an interesting article asking if soon-to-be Hall of Famer, Martin Brodeur, was overrated. The timing of the article was of course impeccable as Martin Brodeur is about to be enshrined in to the Hockey Hall of Fame this coming Monday, November 12, 2018.
Wyshynski does a fine job articulating the many unpopular opinions that circulate in the hockey world about Martin Brodeur. The perspective on Brodeur seems to either be "GOAT" or "Lucky SOB." There is no in-between. Blogger "The Contrarian Goaltender" Phillip Myrland, YouTuber "The Hockey Guy" Shannon, and writer, Adam Laskaris of The Hockey Writers have all griped about Brodeur being regarded as the greatest of all time. Their arguments against Brodeur boil down to three points: Defense, shots against, and save percentage.
"Stevens, Niedermayer, Daneyko, and the trap defense are the reasons behind Brodeur’s success."
"Brodeur facing an average of 25.1 shots per game during his career when the average goalie during that same time-span faced an average of 29.1 shots per game is the reason behind Brodeur’s success."
"Brodeur never led the league in save percentage and only was top-ten in save percentage six times in his career."
There you have it, the arguments against Brodeur being the GOAT in a nutshell.
Now let’s do something not one writer, pundit, or even Devil’s fan has ever done; let’s delve in to these arguments and see if they hold water. I mean, they are all true statements. Brodeur did play behind a great defense, the Devils did play the trap for quite sometime in the beginning of Brodeur’s career, he faced an average of 25.1 shots per game, he never led the league in save percentage and only was top-ten in save percentage six times in his career. All are facts all are true, so what gives?
First, let’s look at the Stevens Niedermayer and Daneyko argument.
How About Brodeur as a starter with all three of the Devils' legends:
363 wins in 661 games played for a win percentage of 54.9%. Brodeur posted a
.912 SV%, 2.18 GAA, won 1 Vezina trophy, was a 3-time First or Second Team
All-Star Selection and 17.6% of his wins were shutouts.
Brodeur as a starter without all three of the Devils' legends: 291 wins in 526 games
played for a win percentage of 55.3%. Brodeur posted a .915 SV%, 2.29 GAA, won
3 Vezina trophies, was a 4-time First or Second Team All-Star Selection, and 18.9% of his wins were shutouts.
So what did we learn?
1. Brodeur had a better win percentage without Stevens, Niedermayer, and
Daneyko.
2. Brodeur had a better save percentage without Stevens, Niedermayer, and
Daneyko.
3. Brodeur won 3 Vezina trophies as the
best goaltender in the league without
Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko
4. Brodeur posted a higher rate of shutouts without Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko. and;
4. Brodeur posted a higher rate of shutouts without Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko. and;
Conversely, Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko were more successful with Martin Brodeur than they were without him.
Let’s also not forget that Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko combine for one Norris trophy and 9 all-star selections. Meanwhile legendary goaltenders like Patrick Roy and Dominik Hasek captured Lord Stanley behind defensemen such as Chris Chelios, Larry Robinson, Rob Blake, Ray Bourque, Eric Desjardins and Nicklas Lidstrom all of whom combine for 18 Norris Trophies and 50 all-star selections.
Moving on to the vaunted neutral zone trap. The
neutral zone trap essentially forces teams to dump the puck in due to a 4-man
clog in the neutral zone and traditionally dispatching one forechecker. Since
most team’s bread and butter is the good old dump and chase, this style of play
can’t be that big a deal right? Well, that is generally correct. Numerous teams
have installed the neutral zone trap or some form of it. From Jacques Lemaire’s Minnesota Wild (2000-2009) to Guy Boucher’s Tampa Bay Lightning (2010-2013)and Ottawa Senators (2016-present) to Larry Robinson’s Los Angeles Kings(1995-1999). All of these teams combine for a win percentage of .434 and a
grand total of zero Stanley cups. Not one goalie playing for any of those teams
won a Vezina trophy nor were they ever considered to be one of the greatest to
play the game.
So now that we know the trap defense isn’t
some magical formula that makes goaltenders legendary and defenses unbeatable,
what was the difference in New Jersey all of those years? Answer: Martin
Brodeur. When the dump would inevitably occur, Brodeur would then use his puck-handling
skills and quarterback the breakout in to the opposing team's offensive zone,
while simultaneously preventing the opposing team from establishing any
semblance of a forecheck. Instead of Brodeur stopping shots, he was preventing
scoring chances altogether by handling the puck, while also manufacturing a
scoring opportunity for his team. His ability to not only be a goaltender, but
also be a 3rd defensemen meant that he had more influence on the outcome of a
game than your traditional goaltender.
Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko rarely had to worry about foot races to the end boards like all other defensemen around the league. Their focus could solely remain on taking the puck and/or the body. The worst-case scenario is the attacking player chips the puck in and gets by the Devils’ defensemen thereby turning it in to a race between the attacking player and Martin Brodeur. Who do you think is getting to the puck first?
In terms of football, it was like a defense whose only worry was the run. How good do you think that defense is going to be when they know all you can do is run the ball? Here, how good do you think Stevens and company are going to be when all they have to worry about is taking the guy who is skating right towards them because he has no other alternative? Brodeur decreased his defenseman’s concern about over committing or finding himself flat-footed on the dump, which under any other circumstance would result in the forecheck establishing itself. Not the case in New Jersey.
Let’s move on to shot totals. As I
illustrated above, Brodeur was greatly responsible for decreasing shots through
his non-save skills such as puck-handling and reducing faceoffs in his own zone
by keeping the play going. So how does one shower a goalie with praise for
stopping shots but discredit Brodeur for preventing the shooting opportunity
altogether? I would call that flawed logic. Additionally, the argument that
facing less shots helped Brodeur would only be a valid argument if Brodeur
performed poorly during games where he saw more rubber. Otherwise, how is it an
advantage if Brodeur actually played better on busier nights?
Example: Brodeur had 104 playoff games in
his career where he saw an average of 31.5 shots per game. To give context,
Dominik Hasek played a total of 68 playoff games for Buffalo, in which he saw
an average of 30.6 shots per game, (almost one shot less than Brodeur saw in
his 104 career playoff games). In those 104 playoff games where Brodeur saw an
average of 31.5 shots per game, he posted a .928 SV%. In those 68 games where
Hasek saw an average of 30.6 shots per game, he posted a .930 SV%, hardly a
significant difference. Brodeur boasted a comparable save percentage to Hasek
when he saw more shots.
I'll even take it one step further. Brodeur
has 26 playoff games in his career where he saw an average of 39.9 shots per
game and he posted a spectacular .938 SV% in those playoff games.
So seeing less shots clearly didn't
"help" or "pad" Brodeur's stats, because he performed
better when he saw more shots. Even when we look at his time as a starting
goaltender without having Stevens,
Niedermayer, and Daneyko we see that he faced an average of 26.4 shots per
game, posted a .915 SV% and won 55.3% of his games. Conversely, when Brodeur
played behind Stevens Niedermayer, and Daneyko, he faced an average of just 24.1
shots per game, posted a .912 SV% and won 54.9% of his games. So was seeing
less shots an advantage or was it actually a detriment to his statistics? The
evidence clearly indicates the latter.
This brings us to the final point of
contention with Martin Brodeur; save percentage. This analysis will go
hand-in-hand with shots faced as save percentage is of course, determined by
the number of saves divided by the number of shots faced.
Dominik Hasek faced an average of just 23.5
shots per game during his time with the Detroit Red Wings and posted a .911
SV%. When Hasek was with Buffalo, he faced an average of 29.3 shots per game
and posted a sparkling .926 SV%
Did seeing less shots hurt his save
percentage? You might argue Hasek was past his prime when he went to
Detroit. Well let’s look at his
time with Ottawa, which was after his
first stint with Detroit.
In Ottawa, Hasek faced an average of 28
shots per game and lo and behold he posted a dazzling .925 SV%. This clearly indicates
that Hasek posted a better save percentage when he faced more shots.
Ironically, this phenomenon happened with Brodeur as we discovered above.
Maybe this is just an anomaly? Less shots
should inflate save percentage right?
Let's take a look at Ryan Miller. He was
hung out to dry in Buffalo but then was traded to the defensive-minded St.
Louis Blues. Perhaps Miller’s save percentage was higher with the Blues because
they were a superior defensive team and allowed less shots on goal than
Buffalo. Let's have a look:
Ryan Miller faced an average of 30 shots
per game during his time with Buffalo and posted a respectable .916 SV%. However, in St. Louis, Miller faced an
average of just 24.9 shots per game and posted a dreadful .903 SV%. How about when Miller was traded to the
Canucks? Well, in Vancouver, Miller faced an average of 30.5 shots per game and
voila! His SV% came right back up to a .914 SV%.
How about Henrik Lundqvist? Lundqvist has had 28 Playoff games where
he has seen less than 25 shots per game and in those 28 playoff games Lundqvist
posted a terrible .899 SV%. Seeing as Lundqvist has a Career Post-Season SV% of .922 that must mean that when he is seeing more than 25 shots per game he's
posting a significantly better save percentage.
Hey, let’s face it, goaltenders play better
when they can get in a rhythm and feel more rubber. Heck, that’s the whole
point of warm-ups before the start of each and every game. The goaltender takes
a ton of shots from all over the ice and relishes that signature thud when the
puck collides with his equipment. The analytics just prove what we already know.
In the end, when you’re the greatest,
there will always be detractors. As a matter of fact, detractors are probably
one of the best indicators of greatness because it means you have made it in to
“the conversation.” When it comes to Martin Brodeur, no one will ever replicate
what he accomplished and not because he was “lucky”, but because Brodeur
brought more dimensions to the position of goaltending and proved that a goaltender
can have a greater impact on the outcome of a game by more than just stopping the puck.
Since it was Wyshynski that started all of
this, I’ll leave off with a sentiment from his article. “Brodeur’s ability to
be effective without a high shot volume and his unmatched puck-handling skills
helped turn the Devil’s defensive systems into the smothering
championship-caliber machines they were just as much as Stevens, Niedermayer,
or Daneyko did. I’m not sure how you rate immortality, but I’m pretty sure when
your league invents a rule to stop you from being so damn good, that’s a good
indication of it.”
By The Hockey Lawyer
Don't forget to mention that the NJ shot count guy always under-counted shots in our home arena. Also Brodeur had a Morale effect on his teammates. Statistically they seem to score more when he was in the net.
ReplyDelete@Unknown: You're absolutely correct, shot undercounting was prevalent in NJ and Brodeur's intangibles such as his cool, calm, and collected demeanor had an extremely positive and profound impact on his teammates. His teammates have been very vocal about how much it aided them mentally to see their #1 player so calm and light-hearted on game-days.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the comment!